New powerpc test installer image Debian

Hi!

Here is a new test image [1] which is supposed to test the proper partitioning
of the HFS boot partition and mounting it to /boot/grub.

Note: This image will *not* install GRUB yet properly. The purpose of this image
      is just to test whether the changes I made to the package partman-auto and
      the new packages hfsprogs-udeb and partman-hfs work correctly.

If everything works as intended, the partitioning program should automatically
create and format a GRUB boot partition and mount it to /boot/grub. If that’s
the case, I can commit the changes to partman-auto and submit the new partman-hfs
package to unstable.

After that, I can work on the necessary changes to the grub-installer package which
conclude the changes necessary to fix the GRUB installation on Apple PowerMac.

Adrian

[1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/tests/hfstest-20210411/

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    1. Partman is now broken. It doesn’t seem to recognize the boot partition on my G4 Mac mini as being the first primary partition on the hard drive.

      1. Same goes with the snapshot from 2021-04-17. I went back to the one from 2021-02-02. Using the default install, partman worked fine and everything installed correctly, including GRUB.

  1. On my iBook G3 / 900 Mhz / 640MB Ram the image from 2021-02-02 does not work either. Shortly before the installation is complete, I get an error message and the process can no longer be continued.

    1. I am also stuck at the last steps of the installation.
      When looking at the console by pressing ALT-F4
      It fails at install grub-installer because of a missing package called HFSPROGS
      It said it can’t find the package under the PPC architecture (no candidate)

      On Debian site, theres no release for the older PPCs (32-bit)
      Would it be possible to include the proper package inside the install?

    1. I did get the image from the install page. Is there another image on that repo to get? Mind sharing the link?

  2. So if I would install thru the image linked here, I would only need to follow some steps to get GRUB running and make it auto boot?

  3. I have now loaded the image suggested by Thomas and used a default install on my ibook G3 / 900. The installation was completed without any errors. During the shutdown after the installation a kernel panic occurs. When i reboot the hard drive is not found. I have no idea where the problem is.

  4. The installation now boots and ends with a black screen after trying to recognize the ATI Radeon 7500 card …

  5. Günther: try to find an answer in the Debian powerpc mailinglist. Adrian Goubitz is the man.

  6. My experience with Radeon cards is that it’s better to not install LXDE until after rebooting. First update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include…

    # Non-Free (add this if you have an ATI GPU)
    deb [arch=all] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

    Then in stall the ATI firmware with…

    sudo apt install firmware-linux-nonfree

    Then install LXDE.

  7. I hadn’t installed an x at all, I was only in text mode. I wanted to install the desktop afterwards. unfortunately it didn’t fully boot in the textbodus either.

    1. Just out of curiosity, when is the last time you formatted your hard drive with Mac OS 10.4.11? I’ve found that after repeated tries to install Debian, the 1st Apple partition becomes corrupted. This has happened on my G4 Mac mini. Formatting with Mac OS solved the problem.

  8. 4 days ago I installed mac OS 10.4 on this ibook for the last time.
    debian starts in text mode until it tries to recognize the ATI Radeon 7500 card, then a black screen appears. have tried several times always the same result, it’s a bit frustrating.

  9. I tried everything suggested here again, including Thomas’ tip to
    reformat the hard drive in macOS … unfortunately without any
    success. Back then, in 2012/2013 i never had such problems during the installation with debian ppc and mintppc on my old iBook G4 / 1.42 Ghz . I have no idea why this is so complicated on the iBook G3 / 900. I’m currently giving up and have macOS 10.4.11 installed on the book. I will wait a little and watch the forum until a new
    image is available that might work better for my device.

    PS: I’m still grateful for any tip that could help 🙂

    1. This tutorial has helped me to install Debian on all my G4s including one with an ATI Radeon 7500.

      https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/debian-sid-installation-guide-powerpc.2146795/

      It’s especially important to update your /etc/apt/sources.list with the listed repositories that include…

      # Non-Free (add this if you have an ATI GPU)
      deb [arch=all] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

      That’s the only way to get acceleration for your old ATI Radeon 7500 as for some reason the default repositories don’t include it.

  10. What you need for X to work with radeon cards is installing
    firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-amd-graphics

  11. I know this. But the system crashes every time after grub loads the radeon in textmode. I can´t do anything, just shutdown the ibook.

  12. I just did an apt upgrade on my model MintPPC iBook G4. Everything still works after upgrading 998 packages. I will now try to install MintPPC with the 17.4.2021 image produced by Adrian on my PowerBook G4.

  13. I just successfully installed MintPPC on a G4 PowerBook with the latest Debian installer image (17.04.2021). I will adapt the installation instructions to point to these images.

    1. I’m curious whether or not you created the partition scheme manually or did you let the partitioner do the job automatically? The install image from 17/04/2021 doesn’t automatically create a boot partition that is recognized by the installer as being the first primary partition. It stops the installation at that point. The one from 02/02/2021 doesn’t do that.

        1. On my G4 Power Mac, the new Partman doesn’t create a partition that can be used as a “NewWorld boot partition” That is no longer an option under “use as:” like there is under the old Partman. How did you get around that?

          1. I just said use whole disk and it created all the partitions automatically. I didn’t try manual partitioning.

  14. Jeroen: thank you for your efforts.
    Sometimes I think it has something to do with the G3 book. Maybe it just doesn’t work on those particular iBooks.

    I will test the image from 17/04/2021 anyway if I have time.

    1. Following Jeroen’s comment that the 17/04/2021 image works as an installer for MintPPC, I made a CD-RW installer of the image to install MintPPC on my Pismo G3 powerbook.
      Points to note:
      1) I used install option 2 (Automated Install) with Jeroen’s presseed.cfg
      2) Manual partioning does not work because there is no ‘NewWorld boot partition’ option to create a boot partition that is recognized by the installer as being the first primary partition. It stops the installation at that point.
      So I used the ‘Guided – use largest continuous free space’ option to ensure that nothing happened accidentally to the 32.3 kB Apple driver partition.
      3) The installation was successful (inc. GRUB), with working WiFi via Broadcom PCMCIA card (as B43 firmware and cutter pacakges are installed successfully) using ‘Connman Settings’.
      4) However, mouseemu is no longer installed automatically in /etc/default/ to enable ‘Right-Click’ via Ctrl + Click and ‘Middle-Click’ via Apple Key + Click.
      So I downloaded and manually installed mouseemu_0.15-10_powerpc.deb from http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/pool/main/m/mouseemu/ (as this way I have an archive copy because AFAIK I think mouseemu has /or is going to be deprecated?).
      However, using ‘apt install mouseemu’ may have worked still?

      1. I also used the “automated” install to successfully install MintPPC on my G4 PowerBook. When the installation came to the point where I got the message that the boot partition was not located on the first primary partition of the hard disk, I replied no to “Correct this problem?”

        Everything installed beautifully and I am replying to your post on the G4 PowerBook.

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